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As far as I know it's their only released recordings. Could very well have been a studio band. Also the UK press of the single has no sleeve but there is a
Benelux press that does, it's pictured in the 1st link. Unfortunately there's no picture of them on the front, I want to know what the heck these guys
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Dear Dan
"Morning bird" lyrics 'have you heard my morning bird?' No, I didn't hear any kind of bird on it. It'd have sounded better with a bird sound somewhere on it (probably forgot to add one or maybe removed at the mixing stage). Could have been the honk of a horn bill or a squark from a squarking bird (blue one). I think there's a bit of Bolan 'get it on bang a gong' thing going on as well as a Beatles 'she loves you' woohoooo but thought it a bit plain though. p.s. Gareth, thanks (I think) edit http://www.amazon.co.uk/Velvet-Tinmine-Junk-Shop-Ravers/dp/B00007KK93/ref=pd_bxgy_m_h__img_a http://www.amazon.com/Velvet-Tinmine-Junk-Shop-Ravers/dp/B00007KK93 also with 'Bay City Rollers We Love You - Tartan Horde'... wasn't Rat on that track? http://www.amazon.com/Morning-Bird/dp/B000VXFUME/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1214776262&sr=8-2 Morning Bird - Producer - Miki Dallon http://www.myspace.com/mikidallonproductions - composer J. Dave Davies
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I didn't hear any morning bird either!
The must have ran out of tracks overdubbing the fuzzy guitars and synth. Maybe The Damned covering it might not be a bad idea after all? Surely DV can remember the lyrics? |
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http://chriswasanon.blogspot.com/ (search for bird)
'Steve: Excellent, so that song we just played, "Morning bird," that kind of disco-ey. It says on here, "The Damned," but you never remember - do you find anything… RS: That definitely isn't me. Steve: 'Old on. Yeak OK. I'm readin' the paperwork, it's off of "Velvet Tin mine" CD. A best of which has got a lot of Glam stuff on it so I'm just readin''ere a bit about. It says The Damned. (Steve reads off the sleeve notes)…" The mysterious Damned were likely to be one of Mikey Dallion's? session men…confessions. As the single was released on Young Blood label, its naggin' riff was half-inched - that means its pinched - from Geordies, "All because of You." But "Morning Bird" has a Chicory Tip-like appeal. Well they still don't say…is it the Damned here do you know? That's weird. I think there's a lawsuit there mate. RS: I think there is. Steve: All 10 copies that were sold, I think you might… RS: …Reach for my lawyer and go for me 25 cents. Steve: Yeah I think you might get it. I think you got a strong case there. Usin' the Damned name and it ain't even the Damned....' edit, here's that Geordies track mentioned above regarding riff - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RIy9Peg41PE&feature=related
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Blimey Viv!
To pick up on Gareth's point, it's not "would of" it's "would've" - a shortened version of "would have", hence the apostrophe. I think he's perfectly right to pick you up on that, as such usage is shocking. And less of the Catherine Tate "Do I look bothered" business, thank you very much. It's not big and it's not clever. |
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not really why is it just me tho
its not my fault i have the crappiest accent in the world il ring you later pike then you can hear what i mean |
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It's not your accent, Viv, it's the way you transcribed it.
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yes it is
if i typed how the older generation spoke no one would understand it alryt cocker thad mek a berrer doer thun a winder' - You'd make a better door than a window… You're standing in my line of vision! 'It's omptyin t'streets' It's emptying the streets… It's raining very hard Ave got fot goo nair… I have to go now Tha mun goo… You must go! Av got fot gut shop fo mi mam… I have to go to the shop for my mother Shut thi cakeole… Close your mouth! Is faiwin dearnt steers… He's fallen down the stairs! Now tha mearnt… No you mustn't! Ee wer bairnt goo burra towdim not fot do… He was going to go but I told him not to Is deed… He has died! I went on to live 'over the border… just! …in Todmorden. (tha dunt know whether thas cumin er gooin oer theer) Thas neyther one ner't'other Eh up then, awl sithee when tha cums whoam. Awl put t'kettle on't th'hob." taterash - meat and potato stew barm cake -bread roll "Get up the Dancers" (dancers = Ginger Rodgers & Fred Astaire's = stairs?) get up the stairs when asked to close the door behind you as you come into a room, "Put wood in T'hole lad" and the old proverb, "Nae cast a clowt til May is owt" - Keep wrapped up - I seem to recall hearing 'May' referred to May Blossoms and not the month. |
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Private Pike wrote: Are talking about me? |
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Gareth wrote: Hurrah!! Might I shake you by the virtual hand sir!! What in the name of all things holy is the reason behind this terrible mispronunciation? |
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Well spotted Dan, I have 0often wondered what they'd sound like....generic glam/pop/rock. There's some real nostalgia stuff on their, I've just
dabbled in a bit of Chickory tip, wasn't their big hit "Son of my father" ?
Wooo this is fun, I've just had a listen to Rats "turtle dove"...TRex soundalikey. What's next? Ah, the Jets... Everbody stand up, hook yer thumbs into your waistband and stick yer elbows...now sort of twist from side to side whilst dipping yer bonce...lol they knew how to dance !!!
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Hi Pike great speaking to you tonight
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Pike ain't real, he's in a telly programme called Dad's army !!!
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well i spoke to him on the phone about 8.10pm
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Superstring theory
Superstring theory is an attempt to explain all of the particles and fundamental forces of nature in one theory by modelling them as vibrations of tiny supersymmetric strings. It is considered one of the most promising candidate theories of quantum gravity. Superstring theory is a shorthand for supersymmetric string theory because unlike bosonic string theory, it is the version of string theory that incorporates fermions and supersymmetry. The deepest problem in theoretical physics is harmonizing the theory of general relativity, which describes gravitation and applies to large-scale structures (stars, galaxies, super clusters), with quantum mechanics, which describes the other three fundamental forces acting on the atomic scale. The development of a quantum field theory of a force invariably results in infinite (and therefore useless) probabilities. Physicists have developed mathematical techniques (renormalization) to eliminate these infinities which work for three of the four fundamental forces - electromagnetic, strong nuclear and weak nuclear forces - but not for gravity. The development of a quantum theory of gravity must therefore come about by different means than those used for the other forces. Basic idea The basic idea is that the fundamental constituents of reality are strings of the Planck length (about 10−33 cm) which vibrate at resonant frequencies. Every string in theory has a unique resonance, or harmonic. Different harmonics determine different fundamental forces. The tension in a string is on the order of the Planck force (1044 newtons). The graviton (the proposed messenger particle of the gravitational force), for example, is predicted by the theory to be a string with wave amplitude zero. Another key insight provided by the theory is that no measurable differences can be detected between strings that wrap around dimensions smaller than themselves and those that move along larger dimensions (i.e., effects in a dimension of size R equal those whose size is 1/R). Singularities are avoided because the observed consequences of "Big Crunches" never reach zero size. In fact, should the universe begin a "big crunch" sort of process, string theory dictates that the universe could never be smaller than the size of a string, at which point it would actually begin expanding. Our physical space is observed to have only three large dimensions and-taken together with time as the fourth dimension-a physical theory must take this into account. However, nothing prevents a theory from including more than 4 dimensions, per se. In the case of string theory, consistency requires spacetime to have 10, 11 or 26 dimensions. The conflict between observation and theory is resolved by making the unobserved dimensions compactified. Our minds have difficulty visualizing higher dimensions because we can only move in three spatial dimensions. One way of dealing with this limitation is not to try to visualize higher dimensions at all, but just to think of them as extra numbers in the equations that describe the way the world works. This opens the question of whether these 'extra numbers' can be investigated directly in any experiment (which must show different results in 1, 2, or 2+1 dimensions to a human scientist). This, in turn, raises the question of whether models that rely on such abstract modelling (and potentially impossibly huge experimental apparatus) can be considered scientific. Six-dimensional Calabi-Yau shapes can account for the additional dimensions required by superstring theory. The theory states that every point in space (or whatever we had previously considered a point) is in fact a very small manifold where each extra dimension has a size on the order of the Planck length. Superstring theory is not the first theory to propose extra spatial dimensions; the Kaluza-Klein theory had done so previously. Modern string theory relies on the mathematics of folds, knots, and topology, which were largely developed after Kaluza and Klein, and has made physical theories relying on extra dimensions much more credible. Integrating general relativity and quantum mechanics General relativity typically deals with situations involving large mass objects in fairly large regions of spacetime whereas quantum mechanics is generally reserved for scenarios at the atomic scale (small spacetime regions). The two are very rarely used together, and the most common case in which they are combined is in the study of black holes. Having "peak density", or the maximum amount of matter possible in a space, and very small area, the two must be used in synchrony in order to predict conditions in such places; yet, when used together, the equations fall apart, spitting out impossible answers, such as imaginary distances and less than one dimension. The major problem with their congruence is that, at sub-Planck (an extremely small unit of length) lengths, general relativity predicts a smooth, flowing surface, while quantum mechanics predicts a random, warped surface, neither of which are anywhere near compatible. Superstring theory resolves this issue, replacing the classical idea of point particles with loops. These loops have an average diameter of the Planck length, with extremely small variances, which completely ignores the quantum mechanical predictions of sub-Planck length dimensional warping, there being no matter that is of sub-Planck length. There are five ways open and closed strings can interact. An interaction in superstring theory is a topology changing event. Since superstring theory has to be a local theory to obey causality the topology change must only occur at a single point. If O represents a closed string and C an open string, then the five interactions are, symbollically: CCC + OOO + CCCC + CO + CCO All open superstring theories also contain closed superstrings since closed superstrings can be seen from the fifth interaction, they are unavoidable. Although all these interactions are possible, in practice the most used superstring model is the closed heterotic E8xE8 superstring which only has closed strings and so only the second interaction (OOO) is needed. The Mathematics The single most important equation in (first quantisized bosonic) string theory is the N-point scattering amplitude. This treats the incoming and outgoing strings as points, which in string theory are tachyons, with momentum ki which connect to a string world surface at the surface points zi. It is given by the following functional integral which integrates (sums) over all possible embeddings of this 2D surface in 26 dimensions. A_N = \int{D\mu \int{D[X] exp \left( -\frac{1}{4\pi\alpha} \int{ \partial_z X_{\mu}(z,\overline{z}) \partial_{\overline{z}} X^{\mu}(z,\overline{z})}dz^2 + i \sum_{i=1}^{N}{k_{i \mu} X^{\mu}(z_i,\overline{z}_i) } \right) }} The functional integral can be done because it is a Gaussian to become: A_N = \int{D\mu \prod_{0 This is integrated over the various points zi. Special care must be taken because two parts of this complex region may represent the same point on the 2D surface and you don't want to integrate over them twice. Also you need to make sure you are not integrating multiple times over different paramaterisations of the surface. When this is taken into account it can be used to calculate the 4-point scattering amplitude (the 3-point amplitude is simply a delta function): A_4 = \frac{ \Gamma (-1+\frac12(k_1+k_2)^2) \Gamma (-1+\frac12(k_2+k_3)^2) } { \Gamma (-2+\frac12((k_1+k_2)^2+(k_2+k_3)^2)) } Which is a beta function. It was this beta function which was apparently found before full string theory was developed. With superstrings the equations contain not only the 10D space-time coordinates X but also the grassman coordinates θ. Since there are various ways this can be done this leads to different string theories. When integrating over surfaces such as the torus, we end up with equations in terms of theta functions and elliptic functions such as the Dedekind eta function. This is smooth everywhere, which it has to be to make physical sense, only when raised to the 24th power. This is the origin of needing 26 dimensions of space-time for bosonic string theory. The extra two dimensions arise as degrees of freedom of the string surface. D-Branes D-Branes are membrane-like objects in 10D string theory. They can be thought of as occurring as a result of a Kaluza-Klein compactification of 11D M-Theory which contains membranes. Because compactification of a geometric theory produces extra vector fields the D-branes can be included in the action by adding an extra U(1) vector field to the string action. \partial_z \rightarrow \partial_z +iA_z(z,\overline{z}) In type I open string theory, the ends of open strings are always attached to D-brane surfaces. A string theory with more gauge fields such as SU(2) gauge fields would then correspond to the compactification of some higher dimensional theory above 11 dimensions which is not thought to be possible to date. Why Five Superstring Theories? For a 10 dimensional supersymmetric theory we are allowed a 32-component Majorana spinor. This can be decomposed into a pair of 16-component Majorana-Weyl (chiral) spinors. There are then various ways to construct an invariant depending on whether these two spinors have the same or opposite chiralities: Superstring Model Invariant Heterotic \partial_zX^\mu-i\overline{\theta_{L}}\Gamma^\mu\partial_z\theta_{L} IIA \partial_zX^\mu-i\overline{\theta_{L}}\Gamma^\mu\partial_z\theta_{L}-i\overline{\theta_{R}}\Gamma^\mu\partial_z\theta_{R} IIB \partial_zX^\mu-i\overline{\theta^1_{L}}\Gamma^\mu\partial_z\theta^1_{L}-i\overline{\theta^2_{L}}\Gamma^\mu\partial_z\theta^2_{L} Beyond Superstring Theory It is commonly believed that the 5 superstring theories are approximated to a theory in higher dimensions possibly involving membranes. Unfortunately because the action for this involves quartic terms and higher so is not Gaussian the functional integrals are very difficult to solve and so this has confounded the top theoretical physicists. Edward Witten has popularised the concept of a theory in 11 dimensions M-Theory involving membranes interpolating from the known symmetries of superstring theory. It may turn out that there exist membrane models or other non-membrane models in higher dimensions which may become acceptable when new unknown symmetries of nature are found, such as noncommutative geometry for example. It is thought, however, that 16 is probably the maximum since O(16) is a maximal subgroup of E8 the largest exceptional lie group and also is more than large enough to contain the Standard Model. Quartic integrals of the non-functional kind are easier to solve so there is hope for the future. This is the series solution which is always convergent when a is non-zero and negative: \int_{-\infty}^{\infty}{\exp({a x^4+b x^3+c x^2+d x+f})dx} = e^f\sum_{n,m,p=0}^{\infty}{ \frac{ b^{4n}}{(4n)!}\frac{c^{2m}}{(2m)!}\frac{d^{4p}}{(4p)!} \frac{ \Gamma(3n+m+p+\frac14) }{a^{3n+m+p+\frac14} } } In the case of membranes the series would correspond to sums of various membrane interactions that are not seen in string theory. Compactification Investigating theories of higher dimensions often involves looking at the 10 dimensional superstring theory and interpreting some of the more obscure results in terms of compactified dimensions. For example D-branes are seen as compactified membranes from 11D M-Theory. Theories of higher dimensions such as 12D F-theory and beyond will produce other effects such as gauge terms higher than U(1). The components of the extra vector fields (A) in the D-brane actions can be thought of as extra coordinates (X) in disguise. However, the known symmetries including supersymmetry currently restrict the spinors to have 32-components which limits the number of dimensions to 11 (or 12 if you include two time dimensions.) Some commentators (e.g. John Baez et al) have speculated that the exceptional lie groups E6, E7 and E8 having maximum orthogonal subgroups O(10), O(12) and O(16) may be related to theories in 10, 12 and 16 dimensions; 10 dimensions corresponding to string theory and the 12 and 16 dimensional theories being yet undiscovered but would be theories bases on 3-branes and 7-branes respectively. However this is a minority view within the string community. Since E7 is some sense F4 quaternified and E8 is F4 octonified, then the 12 and 16 dimensional theories, if they did exist, may involve the noncommutative geometry based on the quaternions and octonions respectively. From the above discussion it can be seen that physicists have many ideas for to extend superstring theory beyond the current 10 dimensional theory but so far none have been successful. Kac-Moody algebras Since strings can have an infinite number of modes, the symmetry used to describe string theory is based on infinite dimensional Lie algebras. Some Kac-Moody algebras that have been considered as symmetries for M-Theory have been E10 and E11 and their supersymmetric extensions. |
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Sellotape is a European brand of transparent, cellulose-based, pressure-sensitive adhesive tape, and is the leading brand of clear sticky tape in the United
Kingdom. Sellotape is generally used for joining, sealing, attaching and mending. It is also referred to as cellophane tape.
The name 'Sellotape' was coined in 1937 by Colin Kininmonth and George Gray, who made the product by applying rubber resin to cellophane film. The process they used was based on a French patent. The tape was originally manufactured in Acton, West London. From the 1960s to 1980s, the Sellotape company was part of Dickinson Robinson Group, a British packaging and paper conglomerate. In 2002, it was bought by Henkel Consumer Adhesives. The Sellotape brand now covers a variety of tape products, and the word is frequently used in place of 'adhesive tape' in the United Kingdom due to its market exposure. As an example of a genericised trademark, it has an entry in the OED. In New Zealand, the name 'Sellotape' is also used as a colloquialism for the adhesive tape. The tape is manufactured locally by Henkel New Zealand. [edit] See also Scotch Tape Masking tape Duct tape |
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http://www.amazon.com/Velvet-Tinmine-Junk-Shop-Ravers/dp/B00007KK93 also with 'Bay City Rollers We Love You - Tartan Horde'... wasn't Rat on that track? http://www.amazon.com/Morning-Bird/dp/B000VXFUME/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1214776262&sr=8-2 Morning Bird - Producer - Miki Dallon http://www.myspace.com/mikidallonproductions - composer J. Dave Davies
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'Steve: Excellent, so that song we just played, "Morning bird," that kind of disco-ey. It says on here, "The Damned," but you never remember - do you find anything… RS: That definitely isn't me. Steve: 'Old on. Yeak OK. I'm readin' the paperwork, it's off of "Velvet Tin mine" CD. A best of which has got a lot of Glam stuff on it so I'm just readin''ere a bit about. It says The Damned. (Steve reads off the sleeve notes)…" The mysterious Damned were likely to be one of Mikey Dallion's? session men…confessions. As the single was released on Young Blood label, its naggin' riff was half-inched - that means its pinched - from Geordies, "All because of You." But "Morning Bird" has a Chicory Tip-like appeal. Well they still don't say…is it the Damned here do you know? That's weird. I think there's a lawsuit there mate. RS: I think there is. Steve: All 10 copies that were sold, I think you might… RS: …Reach for my lawyer and go for me 25 cents. Steve: Yeah I think you might get it. I think you got a strong case there. Usin' the Damned name and it ain't even the Damned....' edit, here's that Geordies track mentioned above regarding riff - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RIy9Peg41PE&feature=related |
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